by Nathan Stout (of AccordingToWhim.com)
Episode #31 Khyron's Revenge
The animation looks pretty rough. I know these last episodes were tacked on but it does look unusually rough here at the beginning.
In the second scene the Masters decide on their ultimate fate: to spend the 15 years to travel to Earth (meanwhile developing one of the Zor clones along the way). This major story point was probably above the heads of kids back then but what did they care?!
The mechanical animation of this episode is rough but the character animation is really good.
Rick is a short dude but the Mayor of New Detroit looks like a midget compared to him!
Oh crap, there's Kyle again! What, Khyron is wearing the same clothes? Sheesh.
New Detroit gets EVERYTHING it deserves! Ha!
Rick's Left Wing pilot looks funny.
With every one's use of the term Protoculture (i.e. Protoculture chamber) it seems the populace knows about this mystic material.
Gloval goes on this imaginary tale about how Protoculture came about. It's totally wrong but whatever. Now I realize that as far as the cartoon goes, that is the story and it was only additional materials that turned that story on it's head.
I find the whole conversation by all the RDF guys pure speculation and totally unnecessarily. It seemed like a lot of time filler.
When Kyle takes off in the car with Minmei in the back seat he hands something to her and says 'here, hold this'. I wonder what that was...
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Episode #32 Broken Heart
The battle scene a the beginning is kinda strange. They use strange terms and Lisa looks different.
What the heck is Lisa doing right there in the middle of the action?
The Zentraedi riding on the Battlepods look cool.
When the bad guys attack the concert hall why don't the Zentraedi in the audience fight back? They are warriors. It appears that if you give up the warrior lifestyle you become a weak and feeble.
Khyron talks about wanting to leave the planet while in the comic he longs to rejoin the Masters.
When Rick jumps into his jet during the Star Saver operation the cockpit is WAY over sized! It's huge!
Where did Khyron get chicken legs THAT big?! I wonder if you could put a regular sized chicken leg in a sizing chamber... That would solve the world's starving masses!
Those forks that make up Kyle's and Minmei's cage have gaps big enough to crawl through.
The lighting of the cigarette with the auto cannon is great. However that Zentraedi is waring a completely different uniform.
Azonia rides her mecha like a true lady; side saddle.
I can't believe that Khyron's little troop could hold up against that many MAC II Monsters.
Rick's Guardian takes the lid off Minmie's prison but then a few moments later we see him rip if off again.
At the end Minmei has to run a looooong way to get to Rick. She seems to be running forever.
Rick super leaps into his Guardian.
What's with Lisa's look at the very end of the episode? Strange...
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Episode #33 A Rainy Night
Sure Claudia... tea... sure it is... lol.
I freeze-framed the shot where Rick is climbing out of his Veritech. Something didn't look quite right. What looks like the 'head' lasers are way too high on his plane. They are on the side of the body. In fact his debarking ladder goes between the lasers... strange.
Vanessa's thought about Lisa being hung up on Rick is very perceptive. Rick seems genuinely surprised when Vanessa tells him Lisa is in love with him. Is he THAT dense?!
Rick's curtains are very transparent, he better not run around the house naked.
Lisa sure puts that Burgundy away. This is a very adult scene in a kids show. I wonder if any parents just happened to be watching when this scene happened (and I wonder what they thought)?
Claudia (in her remembrance of her waiting for Roy when he shows up with a carload of girls) looks at her watch in a strange way. She looks at the inside of her wrist. This is how I used to wear a watch (back before phones took over). I didn't wear them because of Claudia! My brother used to wear his that way and I did followed his lead)
When Claudia remembers giving Roy back his presents you can see the 'under construction' SDF-1 in the background!
When Roy meets Claudia outside in the rain he seems to have grown up from earlier in the day when he looked WAYYYYYY younger.
Claudia and Lisa are both earring fuzzy green house slippers.
It seems in the future phones got bigger, Claudia's is pretty big.
Rick's uniform changes color while he and Lisa walk home... its Robotechnology!
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Episode #34 Private Time
I always thought that when Lisa is chewing that little squiggle line looks funny.
I'm sure that map she looks at can clue me in to where the show's creators placed New Macross but I can't bother to find it out.
Rick is such a BUTT HEAD! Why would you do that??!!!! The book makes Rick a bit less jerk-like with his thoughts of quickly getting back to Lisa, but the Rick from the show just ditches Lisa... jerk!
Lisa has the patience of a rock! I'd have left a half hour after Rick didn't turn up.
The piano player just replays the same song after we come back from checking in on Lisa.
Oh no... Kyle! Rick just lets him be an ass to Minmei, what a wimp.
When Rick drinks he is the kind of person who is a 'sad drunk'.
Communication officer Mitchell is the Velma of Robotech.
The Zentraedi shooting at tiny humans is gruesome!
The Zentraedi shoot at Rick's Gladiator and the bolts do nothing! It's like Rick has the power to make the useless Gladiator a real fighting machine.
The character art changes in this episode from shot to shot. It looks like different companies worked on this episode.
Cooking?! Lisa made sandwiches... that is not cooking.
Rick has the AUDACITY to wrap his new 'cheater scarf' around Lisa! J E R K!!!
Kyle says Minmei is going to sing her latest hit 'We Will Win'. Uhhhhh 2 issues:
1.) The music that starts up is Stagefright.
2.) We Will Win was first performed over 2 years ago! Latest hit?! We call that 'A HAS BEEN'.
Kyle finally leaves! Woooohoooo! Its sad but at the same time... its party time!
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Episode #35 Seasons Greetings
How is it Khyron started in the snow and now he is in the Amazon?
Zentraedi working on the ship? I thought they couldn't fix anything?
Evil Santa giving out black balloons!
Whoa, it's a black pilot! The RDF finally stopped being racist (or something)...
You can tell this animation team did the first episodes. The character's have their original looks.
Rico, Konda, and Bron's booth is labeled Toys, Plastics. Which brilliant marketing minds thought that would entice kids? Perhaps the former spies did it, they might not know what might work.
What's up with Rick's apron? And look, he is wearing those popular fuzzy slippers.
In Rick's apartment you can see that little radio he used to have back on the SDF-1, remember when he was in the hospital and he was listening to Minmie on it?
Claudia runs to the bar to drink to Roy's memory... Ut oh, Lisa runs into relationship problems and hits the bottle!
Minmie in Rick's shirt, sitting in bed looks HOT!
The animation is great in this episode!
Hey, the store clerk has the same radio as Rick.
The radio report (which takes place 'late into the night') says that the first attacks took place six hours earlier. If you remember they attacked on Christmas morning... Its Robotechnology!
The moment of spirituality in this episode WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED in a cartoon now-a-days.
There's the SDF-1 (being lit up with Christmas lights), but where o where is the SDF-2?
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Wednesday, December 19, 2012
Monday, November 19, 2012
Robotech (Comico Comics) #25-30
By Nathan Stout (of AccordingToWhim.com)
Let's continue on with my 2012/2013 voyage in the Robotech Universe with the next six comics in the Comico Macross Saga. Yeah, things have slowed down quite a bit but we are still moving along. Enjoy!
Robotech #25 (Comico 1988)
Max and Miriya look like they are dancing at the top of page 4.
In the middle of page 7 Rick has a Derp look on his face. In the last frame there appears to be a mix up with the coloring because it looks like Rick has been drinking urine.
Page 9 is a full page of Max's ship flying to the SDF-1. It looks great!
Even the comic seems to have glossed over the fact that it appears that Max and Miyira seemed to have been wed the very next day (or something)...
Breetai and Exedore go into much more detail in the comic than the show but it's a good thing. The comic in general explains more of what seems rushed concepts in the show. Breetai's talk of 'being defeated by love' is pretty good.
They don't bother with Minmei's song this time. The comic just does some exposition while she blathers on.
At the top of page 18 is a neat shot of the bridge of the SDF-1 and the arm of the Prometheus way in the background. I like it!
Robotech #26 (Comico 1988)
Strange shot on page 2 of the back of the SDF-1. You NEVER see it from that angle.
Rick's uniform has changed piping on page 10. It's Robotechnology! On the next page it appears that Bron has pooped or peed in his pants. Interesting... must be... Robotechnology!
Page 12 is an advert for a sweet satin jacket from Comico's Mage series. Only in the 80's...
Apparently Gloval's uniform is full of Robotechnoloy too, his collar changes color a bit.
On page 16 Rick's clothes are at it again. Below Azonia must be so scared her hair has turned white (that or the color person was getting sloppy).
Azonia tells Breetai that sending Exedore to the SDF-1 for peace talks was Dolza's plan. I don't believe this at all. Dolza would attempt to stop the 'infection' where ever possible. It is pretty obvious (in the show) that the peace offering was made by Breetai after he put 2 and 2 together and came to the conclusion that Dolza was going to destroy them all.
In the Editorial (which I have complained about before) the editor goes on to tell you about the fantastic evening she had at a Jethro Tull concert... really?!
On page 25 Claudia fills Gloval in on events taking place on Earth including mass suicide. This is kind of strange and didn't happen in the show or book. Maybe the writers wanted to include something about the inhabitants of Earth since they didn't get much coverage in the show.
Robotech #27 (Comico 1988)
It appears Miriya's uniform found it's purple color.
On page 3 both Rick and Minmei grow a pair... well, you know what I mean. They both finally figure out that keeping it inside is doing no one good. This would have been a nice ending bit if the series hadn't kept going.
The attack on the Earth by the grand fleet (on page 7) looks like they are spraying water on the planet.
There is a far bridge shot on page 14 that looks cool.
The 3 Super Veritechs firing on page 17 looks good too.
The look on Lisa's face at the bottom of page 25 is really goofy.
There isnt' a lot to say about this issue. It plays it pretty close to the show and takes few liberties. The art is decent but just like the show they had to make things happen fast to get through it all. It's a pity because this is such a BIG event to take place that you could make several issue cover the events that unfold.
Robotech #28 (Comico 1988)
The art on page 5 of New Macross City is great. I like it!
Ready for some REAL nitpicking!? The calendar on the wall shows May 1st to be on a Tuesday. There was a May 1st in 2012 but not another one until 2015 (in the real world). The year in the series at that particular time was around 2013 so the calendar is wrong... sheesh, what a geek I am!
In the flash back about 'the day Rick joined the service' we see another goof (just like in the show). We are looking at the day Rick first arrived on Macross. Must be Rick's faulty memory...
Right after page 11 is an ad for the 'Dana's Story' comic and I have always been interested in the photo for the cover of it. I'm sure I'll cover it later in my look at the Robotech Universe but I wanted to comment on it here. There is a lot of stuff going on in this picture. I'll just touch on the fact that the cartoon is showing on a computer screen. This was probably not even possible in the mid eighties but I will leave it at that. Check out my review of that comic and I will comment on the strangeness going on in the picture.
On page 13... ahhhh! What the heck is Max holding? A mutated cat? It's TINY. It can't be a baby. If it is it needs to be put back in an incubation chamber, it's not ready yet!
Right below that Lisa's imaginary baby is the correct size but man, what a lot of hair!
Kyle does this very inappropriate impression on page 15. That wasn't in the show...
The final shot of the SDF-1 makes it look as if it's sinking or something.
Robotech #29 (Comico 1988)
When Minmei tries to kill herself by getting out of Kyles car at like 70 miles per hour because she wants to go to Aunt Lena's restaurant Kyle gives in and tells Minmei he will take her... this is a change from the show where Kyle says he will drive her as far as the county line. Nice to see Kyle be a little nicer here!
The top frame of page 8 looks neat. To have the huge SDF-1 in the background, rising high over the city is a shot we don't see often.
Just like in the show Minmei's memory (on page 13) seems to have been muddeled by the horrific events of the last couple of years.
On page 14 we meet up with the old Zentraedi spies Rico, Konda, and Bron. I mentioned in the review of the show for this episode that I thought it was cool that Rico had glasses on (that the shows creators changed the look of Rico... making him appear more 'human') but here Konda comments that Rico is wearing them to 'look smart'. I like the thought that Rico needed them as opposed to the comics take that he is wearing them to look smart.
There is a lot of use of the 'sound' PAF! in this issue! Lol.
The show manager on page 24 (on the show) is Vance Hazlewood, Minmei's old manager. At least I think he is. He seemed to be (to me) but I could be wrong.
On page 25 Exedore says the ships being built on the Robotech Factory Satellite could 'devastate' the earth with one blast. On the show he says 'destroy'. I always had an issue with that.
On the next page Exedore's hair color changes to blond... it Robotechnology!
Did you ever notice that the RDF's 'battle blouses' (LOL) are different on men and women? The men's open on the right and the women's open on the left... just pointing that out.
Robotech #30 (Comico 1988)
The opening panel of this comic is great. The SDF-1 stands mighty in over New Macross City.
On page 12 Dana's hair is blond! I wonder if this was on purpose...
You can tell we have different artist on this comic. The last comics back cover said that Robotech was becoming a monthly comic so I guess they have rotating artist working on it as this point.
The drawings of the Super Veritech's a the top of page 19 are cool.
Actually there are several more drawings of the Super Veritechs in this issue (a few obviously from the art books) but they all look great.
On page 29 Reno talks about 'hostages'. If memory serves me right when Khyron takes Minmei and Kyle hostage (in an upcoming part of the next novel) it is pointed out that Zentraedi don't take 'hostages' since it is a foreign concept to the warrior race.
On page 30 Breetai's ship opens up to fire it's neutron cannon (unlike the show where it is just lasers coming out of the bow of the ship). I think this might be a nod to Do You Remember Love where the Zentraedi ships actually split open to fire their 'main cannons'.
Monday, November 12, 2012
Robotech Episodes 25 - 30
by Nathan Stout (of AccordingToWhim.com)
Episode #25 Wedding Bells
Out of all of the events of Robotech (with all it's weirdness including the dinosaurs in that episode of the New Generation) the battle between Miriya and Max in the park then the sudden marriage proposal is the most unbelievable. Sure, it's dramatic and makes good action but it stretches things a bit.
The sword fighting with knives is a bit much too. Oh well... lol.
The cafe place everyone is hanging out in is pretty cool, lots of windows. Rick acts like a total ass then totally turns on a dime when Miriya shows up. Women have that affect on him.
Within a day Miriya goes from queen bitch to a petite, polite bell when introduced to Rick.
My wife just made the observation that Breetai sounds like Moltar from Space Ghost Coast to Coast.
Of course Minmei has to butt into the wedding. She is such an attention hog.
Well, the final order comes down from Dolza to destroy the SDF-1. It's about time. When people rush from the wedding the door sounds like the doors from Star Trek. Also when the guy tells Max that he doesn't have to go into battle the person running in front of him repeats again and again.
Who in the hell who let Miriya into a Veritech? A: she is a non-combatant B: she is a former alien spy.
When the Zentraedi leave after the battle Gloval says a few line and his hat is HUGE! Also when they show the bridge the 'B' team is on duty but when the order to return is given it's Claudia. I guess she showed up at the end of the battle or something.
"You cooked the coffee pot!" I love that line. Also, why is Rick sleeping in his uniform?
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Episode #26 The Messenger
When Breetai's ship shows up it still has the hole from the Dadelus attack in the front. That's cool that they remembered it.
The scene with Exedore in the conference room was cut from my 6 episode FHE VHS version of the show. When I finally got the Laser Disc version of the series I got to see this. I laughed so hard! I can't believe I missed out on this scene for so many years! When Exedore gets up and sings Stagefright I just about pee my pants!
Does Lynn Kyle ever change clothes? Stinky old hippie.
The UEG are just dying to fire off their Grand Cannon. Even with peace on the horizon.
Gloval's hat isn't the only thing that seems to have grown, his collar is giant! He could go hang gliding with that thing!
Azonia tells Breetai that the 'main fleet' is going to show up. I thought Breetai had the 'main fleet'...
The UEG base at the Grand Cannon is huge. There is a highway and what looks like a virtual city down there.
Of course Minmei breaks into a song in the conference room... sheesh!
Here it is! The big one! Things are getting serious... then, oh man the episode ends.
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Episode #27 Force of Arms
You can tell this was the original end of the series. The animation is EXCELLENT.
FINALLY! Rick tells Minmei he loves her... took you long enough.
We get to see the inside of the MAC II Monster here. When it walks it ruins the deck...that sucks.
The Earth is practically wiped out. It kinda sucked that we don't see much close up action of that happening, it's such a big event you'd think more detail would be shown. They even reused SDF-1 landing footage. There are some appropriate reaction from everyone but it could have been drawn out a little longer. Its shortness kinda sucks some of the life out of the event. The audio editing (with Minmei's song) is kinda bad.
The death of the army guy and the little girl is chilling and horrifying. Time to get little Johnny another appointment with the shrink.
The use of Minmei's singing (and kiss) to disrupt the enemy forces is brilliant.
Every one's lack of emotional distress at the near destruction of Earth is a little distracting.
After the break there are some excellent shots of the RDF forces getting ready to attack.
The 'We Will Win' song fits the final battle perfectly. This was a great decision on the part of the US team.
Having to watch your parent get blasted away like Lisa does sucks!
How in the world is Lisa the only person still alive in the whole of the UEG base. That place was giant.
That was an ship from Orguss on the deck of the SDF-1... how did that get there?
It's sad to see Macross city get blasted.
When the SDF-1 enters Dolza's main base you can see Dolza standing in front of the big screen for just a moment then he vanishes.
The SDF-1 falls to Earth, bruised and battered. It's an awesome final image.
This was supposed to be the end of the series but it became so popular that more episodes were ordered. It was a very fitting ending but it would have been much better spread out over a couple of episodes, it seemed so rushed (the animation still rocked)!
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Episode #28 Reconstruction Blues
We pick up 2 years later in this episode. The residents have left the SDF-1 and are now seem to be the bulk fo whats left of civilization. Fitting considering clivilization sent them off to be a sacrifice during the final battle.
The voice actor for The New generation's Rand is the voice of Bobby and his lines are delivered like someone about to go to sleep.
For some reason Rick and Lisa STILL have not hooked up. They have this weird relationship that makes Rick look like a bastard. Lisa hangs around while the uncaring Rick goes about his business.
Rick remembers Roy's speech 'on the day he signed up' but we see the day Rick met Roy on the day the SDF-1 originally took off. All that battle caused Rick some memory issues.
Minmei sings a song you hardly ever hear during the series while she is in Granite City. Something about 'making the right moves at the right times'. It's not on the Robotech soundtrack so its really rare. Oh yeah, then there is Lynn Kyle with that same freaking purple suit!
During Minmei and Kyle's fight, Minmei finally sounds grown up. Gone is the loopy young girl and in her place is a serious and slightly depressed young adult.
At the end of the New Portland battle there is a shot of the Zentraedi invasion into the SDF-1 from wayyyy back eariler in the series. It was really out of place.
Now 'Admiral' Gloval talks to Rick about putting the Zentraedi into a quarantine area like the SDF-1. This got me thinking about the size of the SDF-1. In earlier episodes it looks to be fairly small when you compare it to a ship like Breetai's and if you remember the size of the carriers it uses as its 'arms' you can get a scale of of the ship. A full size Zentraedi would take up a lot of room in the SDF-1. In fact it doesn't seem like you could get very many full size Zentraedi inside the SDF-1 at all.
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Episode #29 The Robotech Masters
We begin this episode with a boring scene with the Robotech Masters. This is an early taste of the boredom headed our way during the 2nd Robotech war that is just a few episodes away.
Afterwards we get the narrator for a while in a rather depressing monologue.
Oh, look Kyle is wearing something different, what an early Christmas gift! After they have their spat in the car Kyle is 'kind' enough to let Minmei off at the city line... what?! What a turd!
During the RDF meeting Lang is talking but it's someone elses voice. It is obviously Lang but I guess they didn't want him to be the one that argued with so they changed his voice.
When Minmei is thinking about Rick she has a very different memory of what happened in those episodes.
Minmei gets up in the morning and walks about Macross. There is this nice direction where we see all these characters going about their morning rituals/jobs. Rick is running and the former spies are delivering their laundry. Rico now has glasses, that is a cool that the artist have changed a character's look. You usually don't see that sort of thing. Did I mention that met the voice actor that did the part for Rico AND I got him to autograph my Robotech novel Force of Arms?
Bam! Minmei runs into Rick and Lisa, what a soap opera moment!
The voice of Destroid pilot Dan is also the voice of Rand. That guy was working overtime.
Ugh, Khyron is back. Geraro's voice has changed from way back when he was overseeing the gravity mines on Mars.
At the concert that Rand voice actor is back as some usher or something.
Exedore makes a gross over exaggeration when he says that the Robotech factory can make ships that can destroy the Earth in one shot, we never see any of that later.
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Episode #30 Viva Miyira
The boosters attached to the shuttles are gigantic!
Are you telling me that the RDF developed a special pod for Max and Miriya's kid?
Before Breetai folds in space we see some computer screens and there is English on the screen and it is utter gobble-de-gook. You can read some of it but it is just junk.
Ugh... more Roboteh Masters.
I like how Miriya asks if she and Max will ever be able to touch lips again.
Then we see Miriya flying with Dana just sitting on her lap... how dangerous!
I don't want to rag on the series but at this point you can tell it's just a some tacked-on stories to keep it going. There is no real emotional connection to what is happening because there is no real threat. The RDF seems to be going out of it's way to find trouble. The writers did what they could, eh?
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Episode #25 Wedding Bells
Out of all of the events of Robotech (with all it's weirdness including the dinosaurs in that episode of the New Generation) the battle between Miriya and Max in the park then the sudden marriage proposal is the most unbelievable. Sure, it's dramatic and makes good action but it stretches things a bit.
The sword fighting with knives is a bit much too. Oh well... lol.
The cafe place everyone is hanging out in is pretty cool, lots of windows. Rick acts like a total ass then totally turns on a dime when Miriya shows up. Women have that affect on him.
Within a day Miriya goes from queen bitch to a petite, polite bell when introduced to Rick.
My wife just made the observation that Breetai sounds like Moltar from Space Ghost Coast to Coast.
Of course Minmei has to butt into the wedding. She is such an attention hog.
Well, the final order comes down from Dolza to destroy the SDF-1. It's about time. When people rush from the wedding the door sounds like the doors from Star Trek. Also when the guy tells Max that he doesn't have to go into battle the person running in front of him repeats again and again.
Who in the hell who let Miriya into a Veritech? A: she is a non-combatant B: she is a former alien spy.
When the Zentraedi leave after the battle Gloval says a few line and his hat is HUGE! Also when they show the bridge the 'B' team is on duty but when the order to return is given it's Claudia. I guess she showed up at the end of the battle or something.
"You cooked the coffee pot!" I love that line. Also, why is Rick sleeping in his uniform?
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Episode #26 The Messenger
When Breetai's ship shows up it still has the hole from the Dadelus attack in the front. That's cool that they remembered it.
The scene with Exedore in the conference room was cut from my 6 episode FHE VHS version of the show. When I finally got the Laser Disc version of the series I got to see this. I laughed so hard! I can't believe I missed out on this scene for so many years! When Exedore gets up and sings Stagefright I just about pee my pants!
Does Lynn Kyle ever change clothes? Stinky old hippie.
The UEG are just dying to fire off their Grand Cannon. Even with peace on the horizon.
Gloval's hat isn't the only thing that seems to have grown, his collar is giant! He could go hang gliding with that thing!
Azonia tells Breetai that the 'main fleet' is going to show up. I thought Breetai had the 'main fleet'...
The UEG base at the Grand Cannon is huge. There is a highway and what looks like a virtual city down there.
Of course Minmei breaks into a song in the conference room... sheesh!
Here it is! The big one! Things are getting serious... then, oh man the episode ends.
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Episode #27 Force of Arms
You can tell this was the original end of the series. The animation is EXCELLENT.
FINALLY! Rick tells Minmei he loves her... took you long enough.
We get to see the inside of the MAC II Monster here. When it walks it ruins the deck...that sucks.
The Earth is practically wiped out. It kinda sucked that we don't see much close up action of that happening, it's such a big event you'd think more detail would be shown. They even reused SDF-1 landing footage. There are some appropriate reaction from everyone but it could have been drawn out a little longer. Its shortness kinda sucks some of the life out of the event. The audio editing (with Minmei's song) is kinda bad.
The death of the army guy and the little girl is chilling and horrifying. Time to get little Johnny another appointment with the shrink.
The use of Minmei's singing (and kiss) to disrupt the enemy forces is brilliant.
Every one's lack of emotional distress at the near destruction of Earth is a little distracting.
After the break there are some excellent shots of the RDF forces getting ready to attack.
The 'We Will Win' song fits the final battle perfectly. This was a great decision on the part of the US team.
Having to watch your parent get blasted away like Lisa does sucks!
How in the world is Lisa the only person still alive in the whole of the UEG base. That place was giant.
That was an ship from Orguss on the deck of the SDF-1... how did that get there?
It's sad to see Macross city get blasted.
When the SDF-1 enters Dolza's main base you can see Dolza standing in front of the big screen for just a moment then he vanishes.
The SDF-1 falls to Earth, bruised and battered. It's an awesome final image.
This was supposed to be the end of the series but it became so popular that more episodes were ordered. It was a very fitting ending but it would have been much better spread out over a couple of episodes, it seemed so rushed (the animation still rocked)!
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Episode #28 Reconstruction Blues
We pick up 2 years later in this episode. The residents have left the SDF-1 and are now seem to be the bulk fo whats left of civilization. Fitting considering clivilization sent them off to be a sacrifice during the final battle.
The voice actor for The New generation's Rand is the voice of Bobby and his lines are delivered like someone about to go to sleep.
For some reason Rick and Lisa STILL have not hooked up. They have this weird relationship that makes Rick look like a bastard. Lisa hangs around while the uncaring Rick goes about his business.
Rick remembers Roy's speech 'on the day he signed up' but we see the day Rick met Roy on the day the SDF-1 originally took off. All that battle caused Rick some memory issues.
Minmei sings a song you hardly ever hear during the series while she is in Granite City. Something about 'making the right moves at the right times'. It's not on the Robotech soundtrack so its really rare. Oh yeah, then there is Lynn Kyle with that same freaking purple suit!
During Minmei and Kyle's fight, Minmei finally sounds grown up. Gone is the loopy young girl and in her place is a serious and slightly depressed young adult.
At the end of the New Portland battle there is a shot of the Zentraedi invasion into the SDF-1 from wayyyy back eariler in the series. It was really out of place.
Now 'Admiral' Gloval talks to Rick about putting the Zentraedi into a quarantine area like the SDF-1. This got me thinking about the size of the SDF-1. In earlier episodes it looks to be fairly small when you compare it to a ship like Breetai's and if you remember the size of the carriers it uses as its 'arms' you can get a scale of of the ship. A full size Zentraedi would take up a lot of room in the SDF-1. In fact it doesn't seem like you could get very many full size Zentraedi inside the SDF-1 at all.
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Episode #29 The Robotech Masters
We begin this episode with a boring scene with the Robotech Masters. This is an early taste of the boredom headed our way during the 2nd Robotech war that is just a few episodes away.
Afterwards we get the narrator for a while in a rather depressing monologue.
Oh, look Kyle is wearing something different, what an early Christmas gift! After they have their spat in the car Kyle is 'kind' enough to let Minmei off at the city line... what?! What a turd!
During the RDF meeting Lang is talking but it's someone elses voice. It is obviously Lang but I guess they didn't want him to be the one that argued with so they changed his voice.
When Minmei is thinking about Rick she has a very different memory of what happened in those episodes.
Minmei gets up in the morning and walks about Macross. There is this nice direction where we see all these characters going about their morning rituals/jobs. Rick is running and the former spies are delivering their laundry. Rico now has glasses, that is a cool that the artist have changed a character's look. You usually don't see that sort of thing. Did I mention that met the voice actor that did the part for Rico AND I got him to autograph my Robotech novel Force of Arms?
Bam! Minmei runs into Rick and Lisa, what a soap opera moment!
The voice of Destroid pilot Dan is also the voice of Rand. That guy was working overtime.
Ugh, Khyron is back. Geraro's voice has changed from way back when he was overseeing the gravity mines on Mars.
At the concert that Rand voice actor is back as some usher or something.
Exedore makes a gross over exaggeration when he says that the Robotech factory can make ships that can destroy the Earth in one shot, we never see any of that later.
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Episode #30 Viva Miyira
The boosters attached to the shuttles are gigantic!
Are you telling me that the RDF developed a special pod for Max and Miriya's kid?
Before Breetai folds in space we see some computer screens and there is English on the screen and it is utter gobble-de-gook. You can read some of it but it is just junk.
Ugh... more Roboteh Masters.
I like how Miriya asks if she and Max will ever be able to touch lips again.
Then we see Miriya flying with Dana just sitting on her lap... how dangerous!
I don't want to rag on the series but at this point you can tell it's just a some tacked-on stories to keep it going. There is no real emotional connection to what is happening because there is no real threat. The RDF seems to be going out of it's way to find trouble. The writers did what they could, eh?
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Monday, October 29, 2012
Book 5: Robotech: Force of Arms
by Nathan Stout (of AccordingToWhim.com)
The next book in my year+ long look at Robotech is the fifth book in the Del Ray series Robotech: Force of Arms. This book covers episodes 19-24 which cover the big events of the first Robotech War. Before we go on you will undoubtedly notice that I now am calling this my 'year+ long look at Robotech' as opposed to my 'year long look at Robotech'. As the middle of the year zipped by I started to figure out that my schedule will not permit me to finish this within the year. This will probably drag into the majority of 2013 now. No big deal but I would have liked to have completed this task before the year was out so I could read other stuff. Watching the show is a breeze but the reading of the books and the comics have become a real time drag. Oh well, more Robotech fun!
This is the big one... the book covers the near destruction of the human (and Zentraedi) race. After the events of the Zentraedi attack the story takes this lurch of 2 years and slows way down. Yeah, I know this is all spoiler material but you probably know everything that happens anyway, right?
This is also the book that covers the fun events of Max and Miyira's meeting and wedding. Wow, a lot happens here. The novel does a lot to explain some of the weirdness of their meeting like the fact that Max meets this stranger in a park at night and why all the sudden he falls so in love he doesn't care that she is trying to kill him.
They fall in love and marry and all that jazz. Suddenly the military lets Miyira get in a Veritech and fly around with him in battle?! Does anyone find that a bit strange? The author does his best to explain it but you can only do so much.
As you know I have had my suspicions as to who was writing which book (Daley or Luceno). It used to be somewhat obvious but now I am not 100% sure. I would bet that Daley did this book but he didn't stick so closely to the show like he did before.
Back to the action: so Max and Miyira are in the battle and she tells him to shoot the pods so the pilot will survive. What Miyira does is more cruel to the Zentraedi pilots that just blowing them up. She is basically disabling the pod, stranding the pilot in deep space to presumably to die of starvation. They are a warrior race that seems to care little for their troops. Do you really think higher-ups will bother to go retrieve a few measly pods? I doubt it. Also, these are warriors, to deprive them of a honorable death in battle is humiliating! That Miyira... what a bitch!
During Rick's rescue of Lisa (in the show) his canopy gets broken. It's very faint (thanks to the fact that is transparent) but you can see it. In the book this doesn't happen. I think the source tape the author was watching was bad enough for him to miss this fact.
In the final attack of the SDF-1 on Dolza's headquarters the main gun is NEVER used. I just found that interesting since it was always such an important part of the ships offense and the storyline.
In the show several direct hits on the SDF-1 and the destruction of Macross City. It looks like they animated the destructing at 32 frames a second (twice as normal). It is kinda heart wrenching but the book just mentions it briefly.
When the SDF-1 launches it final attack and turns on the shield barrier the book never mentions that this is the same overload type explosion that happened to Ontario. A very clever twist by the writers. The book says the alliance attacks Dolz'a base's reflex drive. This just sucks. The deliberate use of the faulty overloading shield is much cooler.
Dolza seems to change his mind at the last second when he sees the power (and cunning) of the SDF-1 in the hands of the humans. I doubt this behavior would be the Zentraedi way. Again (as in an earlier book) the Zentraedi high-command considers attacking their masters (the Robotech Masters). I think this is off-base with their character as a whole. They are Zentraedi, bred for war. I doubt it would have even crossed their minds to betray their masters.
I have never really even though about this part but Breetai and Azonia's forces fight along side the SDF-1 where do they go when the SDF-1 goes in and blows up Dolza's ship? The explosion takes out ALL of the Zentraedi forces. How did Breetai and Azonia escape?
In my RPG books and in other material it looks like the SDF-1 lands in North America after it destroys Dolza's fleet. Now... Rick and Lisa are on hand to see it fall from the sky. Rick saved Lisa from Alaska base. You mean to tell me that Rick and Lisa flew that far? Remember Rick ditched his Veritech's canopy after it was damaged. So they flew unprotected all the way down there? Whaaaaa????? lol.
Chapter 22 (the beginning of 'Reconstruciton Blues') recaps the destruction of the Earth at the hands of Dolza's fleet. It is very good. Bravo!
Sorry this took so long to post. I have been trying to sell my house and all that jazz so it has taken extra long to get this stuff done. Not to mention I finished watching the Flash TV series and Birds of Prey series (on DVD). I'm such a slacker!
The next book in my year+ long look at Robotech is the fifth book in the Del Ray series Robotech: Force of Arms. This book covers episodes 19-24 which cover the big events of the first Robotech War. Before we go on you will undoubtedly notice that I now am calling this my 'year+ long look at Robotech' as opposed to my 'year long look at Robotech'. As the middle of the year zipped by I started to figure out that my schedule will not permit me to finish this within the year. This will probably drag into the majority of 2013 now. No big deal but I would have liked to have completed this task before the year was out so I could read other stuff. Watching the show is a breeze but the reading of the books and the comics have become a real time drag. Oh well, more Robotech fun!This is the big one... the book covers the near destruction of the human (and Zentraedi) race. After the events of the Zentraedi attack the story takes this lurch of 2 years and slows way down. Yeah, I know this is all spoiler material but you probably know everything that happens anyway, right?
This is also the book that covers the fun events of Max and Miyira's meeting and wedding. Wow, a lot happens here. The novel does a lot to explain some of the weirdness of their meeting like the fact that Max meets this stranger in a park at night and why all the sudden he falls so in love he doesn't care that she is trying to kill him.
They fall in love and marry and all that jazz. Suddenly the military lets Miyira get in a Veritech and fly around with him in battle?! Does anyone find that a bit strange? The author does his best to explain it but you can only do so much.
As you know I have had my suspicions as to who was writing which book (Daley or Luceno). It used to be somewhat obvious but now I am not 100% sure. I would bet that Daley did this book but he didn't stick so closely to the show like he did before.
Back to the action: so Max and Miyira are in the battle and she tells him to shoot the pods so the pilot will survive. What Miyira does is more cruel to the Zentraedi pilots that just blowing them up. She is basically disabling the pod, stranding the pilot in deep space to presumably to die of starvation. They are a warrior race that seems to care little for their troops. Do you really think higher-ups will bother to go retrieve a few measly pods? I doubt it. Also, these are warriors, to deprive them of a honorable death in battle is humiliating! That Miyira... what a bitch!
During Rick's rescue of Lisa (in the show) his canopy gets broken. It's very faint (thanks to the fact that is transparent) but you can see it. In the book this doesn't happen. I think the source tape the author was watching was bad enough for him to miss this fact.
In the final attack of the SDF-1 on Dolza's headquarters the main gun is NEVER used. I just found that interesting since it was always such an important part of the ships offense and the storyline.
In the show several direct hits on the SDF-1 and the destruction of Macross City. It looks like they animated the destructing at 32 frames a second (twice as normal). It is kinda heart wrenching but the book just mentions it briefly.
When the SDF-1 launches it final attack and turns on the shield barrier the book never mentions that this is the same overload type explosion that happened to Ontario. A very clever twist by the writers. The book says the alliance attacks Dolz'a base's reflex drive. This just sucks. The deliberate use of the faulty overloading shield is much cooler.
Dolza seems to change his mind at the last second when he sees the power (and cunning) of the SDF-1 in the hands of the humans. I doubt this behavior would be the Zentraedi way. Again (as in an earlier book) the Zentraedi high-command considers attacking their masters (the Robotech Masters). I think this is off-base with their character as a whole. They are Zentraedi, bred for war. I doubt it would have even crossed their minds to betray their masters.
I have never really even though about this part but Breetai and Azonia's forces fight along side the SDF-1 where do they go when the SDF-1 goes in and blows up Dolza's ship? The explosion takes out ALL of the Zentraedi forces. How did Breetai and Azonia escape?
In my RPG books and in other material it looks like the SDF-1 lands in North America after it destroys Dolza's fleet. Now... Rick and Lisa are on hand to see it fall from the sky. Rick saved Lisa from Alaska base. You mean to tell me that Rick and Lisa flew that far? Remember Rick ditched his Veritech's canopy after it was damaged. So they flew unprotected all the way down there? Whaaaaa????? lol.
Chapter 22 (the beginning of 'Reconstruciton Blues') recaps the destruction of the Earth at the hands of Dolza's fleet. It is very good. Bravo!
Sorry this took so long to post. I have been trying to sell my house and all that jazz so it has taken extra long to get this stuff done. Not to mention I finished watching the Flash TV series and Birds of Prey series (on DVD). I'm such a slacker!
Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Robotech Episodes 19 - 24
by Nathan Stout (of AccordingToWhim.com)
In 2012 I am up to episode 19 of the Robotech saga. This includes all the comics, books, and episodes chronologically up to this point in the series. I am shooting for the whole series including all comics and such through the end of the year (not sure if I'm gonna make it...). I better get hustling!
This batch of six episodes is being watched a little bit differently than the previous ones. I have been watching and reading in batches of six but this time I will watch an episode, read the revelant part in the Robotech novels and read the comic book of that episode. I will still be publishing the blogs in batches of six but I will be working on all of them at the same time.
Episode #19 Bursting Point
The SDF-1 flying low over the city is awesome!
Claudia has become the martyr in this show. She has basically lost everything and has to put up with everyone's sympathy with such a brave face. It's no wonder she takes to the bottle.
When Lisa comes up to Rick their hands are resting on thin air. The animation cells didn't line up.
Kyhron is such a loose canon. Why would a warrior race obsessed with such perfection let someone like him live.
Ben's un-finished steak... what a metaphor!
This is obviously the 'A' team of animators, it looks great.
As good as Gloval is he made two GIANT mistakes, the initial fold of the SDF-1 over Macross Island and the activation of the barrier shield over Ontario. Both times he is warned not to do it and both times he takes no council.
Lisa drops the 'everyone's lives are in your hands' guilt on Rick before the barrier explodes.
When Ben dies Rick does this Catholic thing but crossing himself. I have noticed that in some 80's Anime there a few references to religion, something you don't see in US cartoons.
Rick hanging up on Minmei is sort of his movement into adulthood.
This episode is probably my favorite episode because of the whole barrier overload. This episode has some comedy, action, and lots of drama. When Rick reports Ben's death to Lisa it's heart breaking.
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Episode #20 Paradise Lost
Breetai has a smirk a mile wide while Azonia's failures are played out on the screen.
I think it's interesting that Breetai's flagship still hasn't been fixed since Max busted through the screen and bubble on the bridge.
On the SDF-1 the supply vehicles move down the Macross city streets past... Macross Nald's. Har har har.
Ben's spirit sure is short!
Lisa just walks into Gloval's office THEN asks if it's OK to come in... saucy woman.
Why did the spies battlepod jettison it's legs? It can fly just fine with them...
The Zentraedi quickly adopted the Micronian usage to the word 'Robotech'.
Exedore can balance a piano on one thumb! The pile of human artifacts shrinks and grows as the debriefing.
One of the running crowd during Gloval's broadcast disappears magically. Whoops.
Minmei's song starts before she is done talking. Lipsyncher!
Why is Kyle comforting Captain Gloval? He hates the military.
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Episode #21 A New Dawn
At the party Jan Morris makes a return. This whole first couple of scenes have a lot inter personal stuff going on. It's very interesting. Jan even mentions reading someone's palm.
Myria just waltzs into the movie in front of people who obviously have waited all day.
The pilot next to Max at the movie is Will Wheaton.
How in the world would the song 'Stagefight' be the theme to a kung-fu movie.
Rico looks a lot like Michael Jackson while he boasts to the other Zentraedi about Minmei!
I absolutely love it when Breetai sees and misunderstands the kung-fu movie.
It's also great when Rick accidentally grabs Lisa's butt.
The part of the episode where Rick and Lisa are trapped is great. This episode has no real action but is just as good as the most action packed episodes.
The appearance of the cola machine is classic.
It's strange that we never actually see any battle going on while Sammie is in command. It's like they needed to save some money.
The end of this episode is nice. Rick and Lisa hand in hand... finally.
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Episode #22 Battlehymn
The Minmei 'infection' is a great aspect to both Macross and Robotech. It is kinda strange how the Zentraedi have not encountered culture before.
The animation cells in this episode are very dirty at time. I guess the more people work on a cell or if more than one person works on it they get dirty.
Rico looks like this guy...
When Rick is thinking about stuff they show a Minmei 'Lovely Concert' poster on the wall. I think it's funny... a drawing looking at a drawing.
How many songs does Minmei have? The people of Macross never get tired of her songs.
The floating screens in the Zentraedi flag ship are neat. I am guessing that we will have that technology at some point in the future.
How are Rico Konda and Bron suddenly in Khyron's part of the fleet? I thought they were on Breetai's flagship. I could be wrong. Wait... they are on Breetai's ship. He is taking a HUGE risk letting the SDF-1 hit his ship with the Deadelus.
We finally see some more combat after a few episodes of rest.
When Minmei starts singing during the battle her mouth is moving before she actaully starts singing.
Why do Raidar X destroids start running into the Zentraedi ship?
When Minmei is tending to Kyle her eyes are black... soulless.. I knew it.
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Episode #23 Reckless
We pickup where last episode left off. Macross looks like utter crap!
"A Minmei, never heard of it. What are its ballistic capabilities?"
That one Zentraedi pilot looks like a little kid.
Ut oh, Rick sees Kyle and Minmei kissing. In our day and age of P.C. what Kyle did would have been considered rape.
Khyron is still blasting his troops all the way back to his ship.
Once again, the series has taken a very adult tone with the defection of the spies.
The animation in this episode varies from decent to down right sloppy. It reminds me of several episodes of the New Generation (but we will get to that much later).
Max looks VERY pasty at the defector meeting. Perhaps he is feeling ill at the prospect of living with aliens.
Uncle Max must be a midget... he sure is short.
Uncle Max says that they (he and Leena) both can't go and leave the restaurant but that is exactly what they were doing before Rick and Lisa showed up.
Rick cleans the damaged restaurant in his gloves. Really, who cleans in their driving gloves?
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Epsiode #24 Showdown
Who was that guy walking with Max? Max still looks pale so I guess that's just his skin color.
Rick is wearing a very early 80's Japanese fashion complete with cravat... slick!
Lisa flakes out telling Rick she is love with him.
Some of the armor animation in Lisa's shuttle goofs up.
Is Khyron just waiting in his battlepod 24/7 for a battle, sheesh.
The transformation of Max's Veritech into Battloid is awesome! Also, the Super Verictech looks cool just sitting there.
After Rick leaves Lisa's shuttle we begin the first of Myria's arcade capers (probably my favorite part of the first 36 episodes).
Oh, Max's pallor looks better when he talks Rick into going to the arcade but when they arrive he looks sickly.
Look! It's little Jason again! Man that kid never grows. I wish arcades here in the US paid out tokens! One of those games looks to me it might be Lupin.
Whent Max and Myria's game being quite the collection of strangeness surrounds the action.
I love this arcade scene!
Back on earth Admiral Hayes tells Lisa that the UEG is going to fire the Grand Cannon at the enemy before they enter peace negations. This smells of War War II and the dropping the bomb on Hiroshima.
The Zentraedi defectors come UNGLUED when Rico tells them that marriage means that the two people go away and spend all their time pressing their lips together. Lol!
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In 2012 I am up to episode 19 of the Robotech saga. This includes all the comics, books, and episodes chronologically up to this point in the series. I am shooting for the whole series including all comics and such through the end of the year (not sure if I'm gonna make it...). I better get hustling!
This batch of six episodes is being watched a little bit differently than the previous ones. I have been watching and reading in batches of six but this time I will watch an episode, read the revelant part in the Robotech novels and read the comic book of that episode. I will still be publishing the blogs in batches of six but I will be working on all of them at the same time.
Episode #19 Bursting Point
The SDF-1 flying low over the city is awesome!
Claudia has become the martyr in this show. She has basically lost everything and has to put up with everyone's sympathy with such a brave face. It's no wonder she takes to the bottle.
When Lisa comes up to Rick their hands are resting on thin air. The animation cells didn't line up.
Kyhron is such a loose canon. Why would a warrior race obsessed with such perfection let someone like him live.
Ben's un-finished steak... what a metaphor!
This is obviously the 'A' team of animators, it looks great.
As good as Gloval is he made two GIANT mistakes, the initial fold of the SDF-1 over Macross Island and the activation of the barrier shield over Ontario. Both times he is warned not to do it and both times he takes no council.
Lisa drops the 'everyone's lives are in your hands' guilt on Rick before the barrier explodes.
When Ben dies Rick does this Catholic thing but crossing himself. I have noticed that in some 80's Anime there a few references to religion, something you don't see in US cartoons.
Rick hanging up on Minmei is sort of his movement into adulthood.
This episode is probably my favorite episode because of the whole barrier overload. This episode has some comedy, action, and lots of drama. When Rick reports Ben's death to Lisa it's heart breaking.
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Episode #20 Paradise Lost
Breetai has a smirk a mile wide while Azonia's failures are played out on the screen.
I think it's interesting that Breetai's flagship still hasn't been fixed since Max busted through the screen and bubble on the bridge.
On the SDF-1 the supply vehicles move down the Macross city streets past... Macross Nald's. Har har har.
Ben's spirit sure is short!
Lisa just walks into Gloval's office THEN asks if it's OK to come in... saucy woman.
Why did the spies battlepod jettison it's legs? It can fly just fine with them...
The Zentraedi quickly adopted the Micronian usage to the word 'Robotech'.
Exedore can balance a piano on one thumb! The pile of human artifacts shrinks and grows as the debriefing.
One of the running crowd during Gloval's broadcast disappears magically. Whoops.
Minmei's song starts before she is done talking. Lipsyncher!
Why is Kyle comforting Captain Gloval? He hates the military.
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Episode #21 A New Dawn
At the party Jan Morris makes a return. This whole first couple of scenes have a lot inter personal stuff going on. It's very interesting. Jan even mentions reading someone's palm.
Myria just waltzs into the movie in front of people who obviously have waited all day.
The pilot next to Max at the movie is Will Wheaton.
How in the world would the song 'Stagefight' be the theme to a kung-fu movie.
Rico looks a lot like Michael Jackson while he boasts to the other Zentraedi about Minmei!
I absolutely love it when Breetai sees and misunderstands the kung-fu movie.
It's also great when Rick accidentally grabs Lisa's butt.
The part of the episode where Rick and Lisa are trapped is great. This episode has no real action but is just as good as the most action packed episodes.
The appearance of the cola machine is classic.
It's strange that we never actually see any battle going on while Sammie is in command. It's like they needed to save some money.
The end of this episode is nice. Rick and Lisa hand in hand... finally.
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Episode #22 Battlehymn
The Minmei 'infection' is a great aspect to both Macross and Robotech. It is kinda strange how the Zentraedi have not encountered culture before.
The animation cells in this episode are very dirty at time. I guess the more people work on a cell or if more than one person works on it they get dirty.
Rico looks like this guy...
When Rick is thinking about stuff they show a Minmei 'Lovely Concert' poster on the wall. I think it's funny... a drawing looking at a drawing.
How many songs does Minmei have? The people of Macross never get tired of her songs.
The floating screens in the Zentraedi flag ship are neat. I am guessing that we will have that technology at some point in the future.
How are Rico Konda and Bron suddenly in Khyron's part of the fleet? I thought they were on Breetai's flagship. I could be wrong. Wait... they are on Breetai's ship. He is taking a HUGE risk letting the SDF-1 hit his ship with the Deadelus.
We finally see some more combat after a few episodes of rest.
When Minmei starts singing during the battle her mouth is moving before she actaully starts singing.
Why do Raidar X destroids start running into the Zentraedi ship?
When Minmei is tending to Kyle her eyes are black... soulless.. I knew it.
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Episode #23 Reckless
We pickup where last episode left off. Macross looks like utter crap!
"A Minmei, never heard of it. What are its ballistic capabilities?"
That one Zentraedi pilot looks like a little kid.
Ut oh, Rick sees Kyle and Minmei kissing. In our day and age of P.C. what Kyle did would have been considered rape.
Khyron is still blasting his troops all the way back to his ship.
Once again, the series has taken a very adult tone with the defection of the spies.
The animation in this episode varies from decent to down right sloppy. It reminds me of several episodes of the New Generation (but we will get to that much later).
Max looks VERY pasty at the defector meeting. Perhaps he is feeling ill at the prospect of living with aliens.
Uncle Max must be a midget... he sure is short.
Uncle Max says that they (he and Leena) both can't go and leave the restaurant but that is exactly what they were doing before Rick and Lisa showed up.
Rick cleans the damaged restaurant in his gloves. Really, who cleans in their driving gloves?
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Epsiode #24 Showdown
Who was that guy walking with Max? Max still looks pale so I guess that's just his skin color.
Rick is wearing a very early 80's Japanese fashion complete with cravat... slick!
Lisa flakes out telling Rick she is love with him.
Some of the armor animation in Lisa's shuttle goofs up.
Is Khyron just waiting in his battlepod 24/7 for a battle, sheesh.
The transformation of Max's Veritech into Battloid is awesome! Also, the Super Verictech looks cool just sitting there.
After Rick leaves Lisa's shuttle we begin the first of Myria's arcade capers (probably my favorite part of the first 36 episodes).
Oh, Max's pallor looks better when he talks Rick into going to the arcade but when they arrive he looks sickly.
Look! It's little Jason again! Man that kid never grows. I wish arcades here in the US paid out tokens! One of those games looks to me it might be Lupin.
Whent Max and Myria's game being quite the collection of strangeness surrounds the action.
I love this arcade scene!
Back on earth Admiral Hayes tells Lisa that the UEG is going to fire the Grand Cannon at the enemy before they enter peace negations. This smells of War War II and the dropping the bomb on Hiroshima.
The Zentraedi defectors come UNGLUED when Rico tells them that marriage means that the two people go away and spend all their time pressing their lips together. Lol!
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Monday, July 16, 2012
Robotech (Comico Comics) #13-18
by Nathan Stout (of AccordingToWhim.com)
Welcome to the next batch of comics in my 2012 Robotech Experience. First I read these 6 episodes then watched them and now I am going to read the comics of them. For those of you who don't know I am reading and watching my way through Robotech chronologically this year.
Robotech #13 (1986 Comico)
The cover of this issue is cool but you can tell it's the old Macross Tatsuoko Studio drawing of the SDF-1, redrawn.
Rico, Konda, and Bron talk about changing clothes as opposed to uniforms like they do in the book and show. It was funnier (and more telling of the Zentraedi) of how uniforms were the norm in their world.
The shot of Macross city on page 8 is awesome. I like the 2nd tier thing. There is a place called Arcadia! Yay! (ps, look up the name on Google, hint: Duran Duran).
On page 11 there is an advertisement for the 1/144 scale Robotech models... for only 2.25 each! Now-a-days you can find them on EBay for about $25 each.
The guys riding in the car with Roy Fokker when they are heading off to battle are freaking out at Roy's driving (or lack of) and it's hilarious. Here in the comic it isn't as funny as the show but it is still a funny moment.
On page 17 (the Hype Page) there is only one letter and it's about a guy who knew Greg Jarvis (one of the people who died during the Shuttle Challenger accident). Someone at Comico wrote a bit in their February issue. I am not sure which comic title that was (I don't remember seeing it in the main Macross Saga title). I will have to keep an eye out. BTW I was in middle school at the time and I remember the day it happened.
There is that same shot of the SDF-1 on page 20.
On page 24 the splashdown of the SDF-1 is cool. I like it!
Ahhh! Max's face is blue on page 25 (and Rick is being played by Bruce Campbell)!
Ok, before you go on head over and read the Destroid, Excalibur I & II comic reviews then come back here and pickup with Comico #14...
Back? Good, read on...
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Robotech #14 (1986 Comico)
Page 2 has a cool shot of Prometheus.
Page 12 has a full color advertisement for the Matchbox toys (along with their 'imported' designs). I couldn't find any errors with the listings or the pictures this time.
There is that 'standard' SDF-1 drawing again. This time, it looks like it was played with a bit (the placement of the arms, and it appears reversed). You can still tell it by the angle of the shot.
Dolza looks like he has hair on page 25.
There is not much to nit pick at this issue. It's great. The story is all old junk but the art is really really good!
Ok, before you go on head over and read the Vermilion comic review #1-4 then come back here and pickup with Comico #15...
Back? Good, read on...
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Robotech #15 (1986 Comico)
On the cover Kyle seems to be staring at Minmei's forehead.
Rick and Minmei get a quick (VERY QUICK) send off by Max and Ben when they leave to go to Yokohama. What was the point of that? It's so quick. Did they really send that much effort to fly by, say 'have a nice date' and fly off? I never understood why it was in the show to begin with.
This comment is more for the show but when the elevator car is traveling through the Grand Canon the sound effects are pretty lame. Lots of computerized sounding 'zipping' back and forth. Those shots would have been better served with some heavy industrial cable car sounds or something.
On page 17 Minmei looks very silly and cartoon-like when her mother is hugging her.
On page 18, what's with the council member with the funky glasses. I don't remember this in the show.
Rick's expression at the bottom of page 20 is great!
The back cover has an ad for the Matchbox toys and some rebates you can get. The shot of the SDF-1 playset has everyone in it. Rick working alongside Lunk with Dana and Minmei nearby.
Robotech #16 (1986 Comico)
The comic tells us that The White Dragon is the only Chinese restaurant in Macross city... really? A town of 70,000 people and only one? Here in my town we have like 4 of them!
On page 5 the Shrimp on top of the bowl of rice looks to be different in the comic. It looks like little corn cobs. I guess they thought since they just proclaimed The White Dragon as the only Chinese restaurant it would confuse people to see something that looked like a Chinese dish at another location. It's obviously Japanese but just dumb kids read comics and watch cartoons, right?
On page 9 the guy standing watching the TV in front looks a lot more 'detailed' that everyone else. I am guessing it is someone one of the artist knows.
Does little Jason have long girl hair? Looks like the artist might have neglected to notice that was Jason, Minmei's cousin, not a little girl.
I never understood why that person in in the bar (page 10) complains that they lost their 'land' as a result of the events of the alien invasion. I always thought it was weird.
On page 18 there is a shot of Vermillion squad leaving the flight deck. I noticed that those are 'original' artwork designs (probably light-boxed) like those shots of the SDF-1 from a few issues back. I have noticed this sort of art work here and there throughout the comic series. Not complaining... just pointing out.
On page 25 Lisa's uniform has changed color. I guess she is feeling blue about nearly killing Rick.
Robotech #17 (1987 Comico)
Whoa, what's going on on the front cover?!
This comic seems to be taking liberties with the nature of the story. That's fine since it's just a dream... 'yes Rick, only a dream.'
Pages 12 and 13 are advertisement for some cool stuff like buttons, shirts, photos, and such from Creation (those are the people that do the conventions). I wish they still made that stuff!
On page 19 when Rick's plane is caught up in the overhead wires deep within the SDF-1 it makes a sound... Doing- oing- oing! I love it!
That's about all. Not much to comment on here because it's a dream where anything can be 'right'. The art here is done by a different artist and has a decidedly 'artsy' almost art deco look.
Robotech #18 (1987 Comico)
Rick is chatting with the nurse when this issues opens. He didn't chat in the show, he seemed far more morose.
I like the art here. It looks stylish.
On page 5 the writers turned the dialogue around to fit better with a static image as opposed to animation.
Rick seems more annoyed with his subordinate pilots most of the time. I realize you can't get too chummy with your underlings but man, he downright ignores them most of the time.

On page 22 that's a great shot of the SDF-1. I can't get enough of that ship!
I thought they might show the inside of Roy's damaged cockpit since they could, but they didn't
The last page seems really rushed. Not art-wise but in story length. Lisa never actually says Roy is dead either.
Ok, that's all for this batch of comics. This next go around will be a little different as I will be:
Welcome to the next batch of comics in my 2012 Robotech Experience. First I read these 6 episodes then watched them and now I am going to read the comics of them. For those of you who don't know I am reading and watching my way through Robotech chronologically this year.
Robotech #13 (1986 Comico)
The cover of this issue is cool but you can tell it's the old Macross Tatsuoko Studio drawing of the SDF-1, redrawn.
Rico, Konda, and Bron talk about changing clothes as opposed to uniforms like they do in the book and show. It was funnier (and more telling of the Zentraedi) of how uniforms were the norm in their world.
The shot of Macross city on page 8 is awesome. I like the 2nd tier thing. There is a place called Arcadia! Yay! (ps, look up the name on Google, hint: Duran Duran).
On page 11 there is an advertisement for the 1/144 scale Robotech models... for only 2.25 each! Now-a-days you can find them on EBay for about $25 each.
The guys riding in the car with Roy Fokker when they are heading off to battle are freaking out at Roy's driving (or lack of) and it's hilarious. Here in the comic it isn't as funny as the show but it is still a funny moment.
On page 17 (the Hype Page) there is only one letter and it's about a guy who knew Greg Jarvis (one of the people who died during the Shuttle Challenger accident). Someone at Comico wrote a bit in their February issue. I am not sure which comic title that was (I don't remember seeing it in the main Macross Saga title). I will have to keep an eye out. BTW I was in middle school at the time and I remember the day it happened.
There is that same shot of the SDF-1 on page 20.
On page 24 the splashdown of the SDF-1 is cool. I like it!
Ahhh! Max's face is blue on page 25 (and Rick is being played by Bruce Campbell)!
Ok, before you go on head over and read the Destroid, Excalibur I & II comic reviews then come back here and pickup with Comico #14...
Back? Good, read on...
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Robotech #14 (1986 Comico)
Page 2 has a cool shot of Prometheus.
Page 12 has a full color advertisement for the Matchbox toys (along with their 'imported' designs). I couldn't find any errors with the listings or the pictures this time.
There is that 'standard' SDF-1 drawing again. This time, it looks like it was played with a bit (the placement of the arms, and it appears reversed). You can still tell it by the angle of the shot.
Dolza looks like he has hair on page 25.
There is not much to nit pick at this issue. It's great. The story is all old junk but the art is really really good!
Ok, before you go on head over and read the Vermilion comic review #1-4 then come back here and pickup with Comico #15...
Back? Good, read on...
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Robotech #15 (1986 Comico)
On the cover Kyle seems to be staring at Minmei's forehead.
Rick and Minmei get a quick (VERY QUICK) send off by Max and Ben when they leave to go to Yokohama. What was the point of that? It's so quick. Did they really send that much effort to fly by, say 'have a nice date' and fly off? I never understood why it was in the show to begin with.
This comment is more for the show but when the elevator car is traveling through the Grand Canon the sound effects are pretty lame. Lots of computerized sounding 'zipping' back and forth. Those shots would have been better served with some heavy industrial cable car sounds or something.
On page 17 Minmei looks very silly and cartoon-like when her mother is hugging her.
On page 18, what's with the council member with the funky glasses. I don't remember this in the show.
Rick's expression at the bottom of page 20 is great!
The back cover has an ad for the Matchbox toys and some rebates you can get. The shot of the SDF-1 playset has everyone in it. Rick working alongside Lunk with Dana and Minmei nearby.
Robotech #16 (1986 Comico)
The comic tells us that The White Dragon is the only Chinese restaurant in Macross city... really? A town of 70,000 people and only one? Here in my town we have like 4 of them!
On page 5 the Shrimp on top of the bowl of rice looks to be different in the comic. It looks like little corn cobs. I guess they thought since they just proclaimed The White Dragon as the only Chinese restaurant it would confuse people to see something that looked like a Chinese dish at another location. It's obviously Japanese but just dumb kids read comics and watch cartoons, right?
On page 9 the guy standing watching the TV in front looks a lot more 'detailed' that everyone else. I am guessing it is someone one of the artist knows.
Does little Jason have long girl hair? Looks like the artist might have neglected to notice that was Jason, Minmei's cousin, not a little girl.
I never understood why that person in in the bar (page 10) complains that they lost their 'land' as a result of the events of the alien invasion. I always thought it was weird.
On page 18 there is a shot of Vermillion squad leaving the flight deck. I noticed that those are 'original' artwork designs (probably light-boxed) like those shots of the SDF-1 from a few issues back. I have noticed this sort of art work here and there throughout the comic series. Not complaining... just pointing out.
On page 25 Lisa's uniform has changed color. I guess she is feeling blue about nearly killing Rick.
Robotech #17 (1987 Comico)
Whoa, what's going on on the front cover?!
This comic seems to be taking liberties with the nature of the story. That's fine since it's just a dream... 'yes Rick, only a dream.'
Pages 12 and 13 are advertisement for some cool stuff like buttons, shirts, photos, and such from Creation (those are the people that do the conventions). I wish they still made that stuff!
On page 19 when Rick's plane is caught up in the overhead wires deep within the SDF-1 it makes a sound... Doing- oing- oing! I love it!
That's about all. Not much to comment on here because it's a dream where anything can be 'right'. The art here is done by a different artist and has a decidedly 'artsy' almost art deco look.
Robotech #18 (1987 Comico)
Rick is chatting with the nurse when this issues opens. He didn't chat in the show, he seemed far more morose.
I like the art here. It looks stylish.
On page 5 the writers turned the dialogue around to fit better with a static image as opposed to animation.
Rick seems more annoyed with his subordinate pilots most of the time. I realize you can't get too chummy with your underlings but man, he downright ignores them most of the time.

On page 22 that's a great shot of the SDF-1. I can't get enough of that ship!
I thought they might show the inside of Roy's damaged cockpit since they could, but they didn't
The last page seems really rushed. Not art-wise but in story length. Lisa never actually says Roy is dead either.
Ok, that's all for this batch of comics. This next go around will be a little different as I will be:
- Watching the episode.
- Reading the book (for that episode)
- Reading the comic (of that episode)
Tuesday, July 10, 2012
Robotech Episodes 13-18
by Nathan Stout (of AccordingToWhim.com)
I have just finished the book that covers these six episodes of the series. I decided to read first, then watch the show. Next time I will watch the show, read just that part of the book that the episode covers then read the corresponding comic. I figure that this will give me a selection of the 'best' way to experience Robotech in my year long Robotech-Bonanza! By the way, we just made it half way through the year (this last Sunday) so I better pick up steam! Click here if you need background on what the heck I am doing...
Episode #13 Blue Wind
The seat things that the bridge officer's have at their consoles always looked cool to me. I know it took extra effort to add that to the animation and I appreciate that.
I have just finished the book that covers these six episodes of the series. I decided to read first, then watch the show. Next time I will watch the show, read just that part of the book that the episode covers then read the corresponding comic. I figure that this will give me a selection of the 'best' way to experience Robotech in my year long Robotech-Bonanza! By the way, we just made it half way through the year (this last Sunday) so I better pick up steam! Click here if you need background on what the heck I am doing...
Episode #13 Blue Wind
The seat things that the bridge officer's have at their consoles always looked cool to me. I know it took extra effort to add that to the animation and I appreciate that.
Rick's neck at the escape de-briefing is suuuuupppppppeeeer long.
The officer's at the de-breifing are rat bastards!
Max and Rick are midgets compared to Ben.
During the ceremony the music the Robotech theme. Talk about busting down the 4th wall...
Although Khyron was a necessary plot device I never did care for him. It probably stems from the fact that I don't care for the battle scenes and that's pretty much what Khyron was all about.
When Rico, Konda, and Bron start floating they Konda looks totally different. It's like some other animators did this scene and they didn't know what the characters looked like.
Once again the Zentraedi shoot themselves in the foot and a near victory is stopped.
The splash down of the SDF-1 is probably the best the animation company could do for the day and age (and money). Wouldn't a remake of the series be awesome (like the new Space Battleship Yamato series)?
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Episode #14 Gloval's Report
Uuuuuuuugggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
I will comment that there is a little bit of new animation in this episode. Mainly Gloval talking into his computer (which appears to me to be something like Dragon Dictation... man they were ahead of their time), and the other new bit is when Lisa comes in with coffee. Other than that it's all reused footage (some not seen in the American version) with re-recorded dialogue (which in some cases changes the context of the scene).
I will comment that there is a little bit of new animation in this episode. Mainly Gloval talking into his computer (which appears to me to be something like Dragon Dictation... man they were ahead of their time), and the other new bit is when Lisa comes in with coffee. Other than that it's all reused footage (some not seen in the American version) with re-recorded dialogue (which in some cases changes the context of the scene).
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Episode #15 Homecoming
This episode wins the award for having the most densely packed story of any episode thus far (and probably to come). It's the story to Rick and Minmei's trip to Japan and Gloval and Lisa's trip to Alaska base.
The SDF-1 made it back to earth and people are partying like it's 1999... or something.
In Alaska while Lisa and Gloval are in the lift there is this strange bit of dialogue where they seems to talk over each other and nothing makes sense. If you watch it you will see what I am talking about.
Minmei is in FULL brat mode at this point. If people were on the fence about hating here this episode probably pushed them over.
Minmei's dad is a real punk too. I can see why she liked to hang out with her Aunt Lena and Uncle Max.
This is the fateful episode where Lynn Kyle shows his ugly mug. What a pain in the butt! I think Minmei and him were a perfect match and they should have just married... oops I'm getting ahead of myself.
In Alaska the UEG act like little babies and dismiss the SDF-1 as big trouble and nothing more. Just like any real government they hid the alien attack from the world and told everyone that the ship and all the people on the island are dead. This makes returning the people impossible. This is a great story element and really adds to the cool-factor of this show. I can't imagine how little kids viewed this episode but caters to the older viewer in a big way.
Chris and I watched this episode together so we could talk about it on one of our audio shows (According To Whim). We then went on to talk about an interesting story he had to relay about his job. Here is the audio show. If you want to hear more of our show check out page. We have been doing it for more than 10 years now!
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Episode #16 Battlecry
During the intro the narrator says that Minmei's parents convince Kyle to go back with Minmei to look out for her, but if you remember it was Kyle's idea and her parents reluctantly agreed.
Kyle's mom shows more emotion than Minmei's at their child's return.
The scene where the Zentraedi spies break the glass and try to eat the display food is one of my favorites in the whole series. I don't know why it always stuck with me. It was probably because it was one of those moments where I realized that a cartoon about robots and war could have a story that's just as good as all the action.
Lisa's Kyle psychosis begins here, ugh.
Hey, there's Jason! We haven't seen him in forever! He hasn't grown in an inch in more than a year... must be space that stunted his growth.
When the fight in the White Dragon begins the tables all vanish! Oh, there they are again.
Right before the break Max asks if Kyle is real or is he (Max) crazy and Rick answers... 'yes'. WTF?
On Azonia's ship that person who tells her Khyron is heading to the SDF-1 sounds alot like a man!
Lisa's emotions for Rick are getting stronger... or it could be the Kyle psychosis.
Once again Destroids are being wiped out left and right.
For as cheesy the animation looks at times (the B team of animators) this episode is pretty good. It has drama and action in just the right measure.
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Episode #17 Phantasm
This episode is just above Gloval's Report in tediousness. Where Gloval's Report is 95% reused footage Phantasm is somewhere around 70% but at least it has a different story behind the reused footage.
Rick has been injured after the battle in the last episode 'near bird island' (as the narrator points out).
The episode uses previous footage but as I said before it's not a retelling, the story is totally different (Rick's dreams).
Sammie's line of 'stupid' as opposed to 'lecher' fits better. I'm glad that's sorted.
I find it interesting that his whole psyche revolves around rescuing Minmei. As much as a throwaway episode this was the premise of what goes on in Rick's mind is interesting.
"I've been sorta wondering though... what's all this gonna cost me?" This is the best line of the episode.
There's not much you can nitpick 'reality' or 'continuity' wise since it's a dream (like when Max says he needs to switch back to Guardian but pulls down the B control).
The hospital beds in the SDF-1 are HUGE!
Chris and I like saying to each other "Yes Rick, only a dream."
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Episode #18 Farwell Big Brother
Oh, the bed has shrunk back down a bit.
The nurses in the hospital wear really REALLY short skirts. I guess they figure it's good for the male patients. lol.
Lisa's visit to Rick's room was flat out rude. Lisa might be a little confused but that's no reason to be a jerk.
The present Roy gives Rick is only half wrapped. Talk about lazy!
The Minmei doll the spies steal isn't very big but it appears to grow in size once they smuggle it back on the Zentraedi ship.
Since males and females are forbidden to interact in the Zentraedi culture why do we always see them talking to eachother over the video screens?
Right before the forces engage each other there is a shot on the bridge of the SDF-1 on the Vanessa's display screen. You can see the SDF-1 'standing' on the ocean floor. I've never noticed that... cool.
Once again a female Zentraedi in Myria's group sounds like a man.
Ut oh, Rick's bed has grown again. Perhaps it knew Minmei was about to show up... he he he.
I like Rick's house slippers.
An enemy ship gaining access to the city inside the SDF-1 is AWESOME. The panic and anxiety everyone experiences is cool.
Minmei's manager seems to be wearing house slippers too.
I have always wondered what the techs working Roy's Veritech saw in the cockpit. I wonder if they show it in Macross?
The point then Roy dies is a pivotal moment in the success and the legacy of Robotech. This sort of thing just didn't happen in cartoons and much has been written about it. Go research it if you don't believe me.
It's at this point in the series that Roboteh gets increasingly better and better. The story line start maturing even more and it really goes from being a 'battle the aliens' show to a war show about the people involved in it.
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The SDF-1 made it back to earth and people are partying like it's 1999... or something.
In Alaska while Lisa and Gloval are in the lift there is this strange bit of dialogue where they seems to talk over each other and nothing makes sense. If you watch it you will see what I am talking about.
Minmei is in FULL brat mode at this point. If people were on the fence about hating here this episode probably pushed them over.
Minmei's dad is a real punk too. I can see why she liked to hang out with her Aunt Lena and Uncle Max.
This is the fateful episode where Lynn Kyle shows his ugly mug. What a pain in the butt! I think Minmei and him were a perfect match and they should have just married... oops I'm getting ahead of myself.
In Alaska the UEG act like little babies and dismiss the SDF-1 as big trouble and nothing more. Just like any real government they hid the alien attack from the world and told everyone that the ship and all the people on the island are dead. This makes returning the people impossible. This is a great story element and really adds to the cool-factor of this show. I can't imagine how little kids viewed this episode but caters to the older viewer in a big way.
Chris and I watched this episode together so we could talk about it on one of our audio shows (According To Whim). We then went on to talk about an interesting story he had to relay about his job. Here is the audio show. If you want to hear more of our show check out page. We have been doing it for more than 10 years now!
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Episode #16 Battlecry
During the intro the narrator says that Minmei's parents convince Kyle to go back with Minmei to look out for her, but if you remember it was Kyle's idea and her parents reluctantly agreed.
Kyle's mom shows more emotion than Minmei's at their child's return.
The scene where the Zentraedi spies break the glass and try to eat the display food is one of my favorites in the whole series. I don't know why it always stuck with me. It was probably because it was one of those moments where I realized that a cartoon about robots and war could have a story that's just as good as all the action.
Lisa's Kyle psychosis begins here, ugh.
Hey, there's Jason! We haven't seen him in forever! He hasn't grown in an inch in more than a year... must be space that stunted his growth.
When the fight in the White Dragon begins the tables all vanish! Oh, there they are again.
Right before the break Max asks if Kyle is real or is he (Max) crazy and Rick answers... 'yes'. WTF?
On Azonia's ship that person who tells her Khyron is heading to the SDF-1 sounds alot like a man!
Lisa's emotions for Rick are getting stronger... or it could be the Kyle psychosis.
Once again Destroids are being wiped out left and right.
For as cheesy the animation looks at times (the B team of animators) this episode is pretty good. It has drama and action in just the right measure.
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Episode #17 Phantasm
This episode is just above Gloval's Report in tediousness. Where Gloval's Report is 95% reused footage Phantasm is somewhere around 70% but at least it has a different story behind the reused footage.
Rick has been injured after the battle in the last episode 'near bird island' (as the narrator points out).
The episode uses previous footage but as I said before it's not a retelling, the story is totally different (Rick's dreams).
Sammie's line of 'stupid' as opposed to 'lecher' fits better. I'm glad that's sorted.
I find it interesting that his whole psyche revolves around rescuing Minmei. As much as a throwaway episode this was the premise of what goes on in Rick's mind is interesting.
"I've been sorta wondering though... what's all this gonna cost me?" This is the best line of the episode.
There's not much you can nitpick 'reality' or 'continuity' wise since it's a dream (like when Max says he needs to switch back to Guardian but pulls down the B control).
The hospital beds in the SDF-1 are HUGE!
Chris and I like saying to each other "Yes Rick, only a dream."
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Episode #18 Farwell Big Brother
Oh, the bed has shrunk back down a bit.
The nurses in the hospital wear really REALLY short skirts. I guess they figure it's good for the male patients. lol.
Lisa's visit to Rick's room was flat out rude. Lisa might be a little confused but that's no reason to be a jerk.
The present Roy gives Rick is only half wrapped. Talk about lazy!
The Minmei doll the spies steal isn't very big but it appears to grow in size once they smuggle it back on the Zentraedi ship.
Since males and females are forbidden to interact in the Zentraedi culture why do we always see them talking to eachother over the video screens?
Right before the forces engage each other there is a shot on the bridge of the SDF-1 on the Vanessa's display screen. You can see the SDF-1 'standing' on the ocean floor. I've never noticed that... cool.
Once again a female Zentraedi in Myria's group sounds like a man.
Ut oh, Rick's bed has grown again. Perhaps it knew Minmei was about to show up... he he he.
I like Rick's house slippers.
An enemy ship gaining access to the city inside the SDF-1 is AWESOME. The panic and anxiety everyone experiences is cool.
Minmei's manager seems to be wearing house slippers too.
I have always wondered what the techs working Roy's Veritech saw in the cockpit. I wonder if they show it in Macross?
The point then Roy dies is a pivotal moment in the success and the legacy of Robotech. This sort of thing just didn't happen in cartoons and much has been written about it. Go research it if you don't believe me.
It's at this point in the series that Roboteh gets increasingly better and better. The story line start maturing even more and it really goes from being a 'battle the aliens' show to a war show about the people involved in it.
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Friday, June 8, 2012
Robotech Episodes 7-12
by Nathan Stout (of AccordingToWhim.com)
I've had fun so far, picking apart each episode in my year long look at Robotech and now let's continue with the next six episodes of the series. I will also be reading the next six comics and reading the next book (which covers about six episodes).
Episode #7 Bye By Mars
It's strange that Sera base would be totally deserted. Such a large base should have harbored some survivor. Oh well.
If you remember earlier in the year in some of the Academy comics Khyron and Breetai had some adventures together. In the show it seems that they don't really know each other. However, it could be construed that they did know each other.
After the Khyron scene there is a battle scene. This is one of those scenes I never really cared for. I'd just watch more Macross city fun and drama as opposed to ships duking it out. At one point Gloval orders the main gun to be moved and we see it rotate. How in the world that is possible is beyond me.
Rick hears some RDF propaganda and it upsets him. This is a VERY adult theme. I'm sure kids would just let this go in one ear and out another but I think it's very cool.
Once again I'll ask it, why in the heck was Carl Rieber in the military? Such a puss... and apparently a cradle robber.
The Zentraedi spy buried in the ground was WAYYYY ahead of his time. He was the first Emo!
The shot of the destroids coming down the ramp show the MACII at the right size this time. It's huge!
The scene where Lisa rides into Sera Base makes the place looks like Tomorrow Land Disneyworld.
Vanessa's video screen is ginormous!
Gloval calls the Veritech squadrons 'Valkyrie' squadrons.
Rick rescuing Lisa from Sera Base is the first step to their eventual hookup.
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Episode #8 Sweet Sixteen
Ut oh, we are the 'B' team again.
I used to record little audio bits of the show onto audio tapes back in the 90's. I found interesting stuff and recorded it back to back and got to know those bits word for word. The ceremony scene that happens here at the beginning of the episode is one of those recorded sessions. I know this stuff by heart.
Khyron looks very 'Star Blazers' in his first scene of this episode.
Rick is almost 2 heads shorter than the others in the room!
The laptop or whatever it is that Roy opens to show Rick his new subordinates sure is crude. No normal image but a strange flashing black and white photo... it will probably give you a seizure!
The medal that Rick just put on his chest disappears before he leaves Roy's.
Wow! Max's uniforms changes color right in front of your eyes when they are standing on the street watching the destroyed destroid being hauled off.
Ben's enthusiasm is infections.
Why are the destroids all just walking targets?
I know I've already covered this but the 'B' team animation is really rough. The space scenes with the black backgrounds look really dirty, there is a lot of dust particles on the cells.
If Rick had some balls he would could have killed Khyron when his ship was immobilized by thr recall beam.
"Cola makes the good times roll. Have a peanut." WTF?
Minmei goes all gooey because the medal (which she doesn't even know what it is) just because it's shiny. SHEESH!
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Episode #9 Miss Macross
This is one of my favorite episodes of the series. All the elements are just so right here. It's fantastic!
The opening shot shows some of the Ghost fighters you saw in the very first episode. According to the RPG those are unmanned ships.
The very next shot is a view of Macross city's 'layers'. There is no apparent railing or anything... cars and people could just go right over the edge!
When Rick and Minmei are sitting, talking Rick sees a blue sky outside. Minmei tells him that the Robotech engineers did it. I wonder if that was the original dialogue. I am thinking that it was an English addition to the story and that in the original Japanese show Rick was just musing about being able to see a real sky, sort of a day dream. Can anyone tell me? I know that the books really grabbed ahold of that concept and dubbed it the EVE system.
The Zentraedi spies enter the picture and they whole storyline alters. They are the catalyst for the end of the war.
One of the Miss Macross contestants looks to be dressed up as Sybil Faltey.
The long shot of the fanliner looks really crude.
The whole Jan Morris subplot is great and I wish they showed a little more. The book elaborates on her more so I can get my fix.
Rick's uniform looses its blue for a moment when he is being paged at the Miss Macross contest.
The Super Battloid is awesome. It was always my favorite ship in the RPG. So many missiles!
The shot of the missiles coming towards Rick have the SDF-1 in the background. What the heck is going on there?! Looks like they got sloppy and used old animation.
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Episode #10 Blind Game
Rico, Konda, and Bron's positions keep changing during their altercation in front of Breetai.
The lower faceplatesRobotech force's helmets keep changing is size. Sometimes they are small, sometimes they are so big they are covering the pilot's mouths conveniently.
The bridge bunnies move so fast when the phone robot rolls up infront of Rick... it's hilarious. And as a note, Rick's choice in wardrobe is pretty horrendous.
Right after the 'commercial break' there is a shot of the whole SDF-1. It looks great! There's a lot of detail there. Infact all the shots of the ships looks really good in this episode.
I know it's just a show and all that jazz but why o why would Gloval make Lisa go on recon? Oh well, I guess you had to get her captured somehow.
Max says he has some pods coming up at 4 o'clock. He is looking somewhere at 10 o'clock... just sayin'.
When Breetai takes off running down the hall is great. You really want to root for him, he takes such decisive action! This whole battle scene make Breetai a much more interesting character.
Breetai's uniform changes color just like Rick's!
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Episode #11 First Contact
It's WWF Robotech style.
Max's veritech changes color right before he is sucked out of the ship.
Rick is such a chauvinistic pig! 'Some assignments are just too difficult for women." lol. Well, he was really young.
Ben makes a very dirty remark when Lisa is showing off her 'mico video recorder'. 'Micro' my foot. Not by today's standards.
Max hides in the toilet! I just now figured that out!
When Max changes his battloid into a disguise the walking noise changes from a loud clanking to a soft shoe sound.
When Minmei is singing for the first time we see Roy and Claudia together for the first time ever.
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Episode #12 The Big Escape
Lisa says "OK, I heard that" when Max tells them they need to put the guard into the cell. Her inflection was all wrong. The line didn't seems to be for that particular moment. I guess that's the danger of doing voice acting work.
When Max blasts through Breetai's view screen to escape I always thought that was so awesome. It was very 'movie-esque'.
When the veritech blows up and kills the Zentraedi he screams and it sounds so bad. I'm sure little Johnny had nightmares that night.
Rick makes another chauvinistic comment here about women not making any sense.
After their fall in the Zentraedi ship Lisa's har is down out of those awful rolls. This is when I fell in love with Lisa... that lovely hair, fair skin, and shapely thighs... sigh......
How absolutely fortunate that the escapees just happen to get on Azonia's ship which just happens to be going to the sol system where the SDF-1 is.
Wait wait wait! There is a lot of confusing stuff going on here. It looked like Rick, Lisa, Ben, and Max got aboard a purple ship (female ship). Why are battlepods onboard the female Zentraedi ship? Battlepods are male ships, right?
Then we see the spies on board an obvious male ship (no biggie here I just didn't think male and female Zentraedi would fight together). The ship is purple too so I guess the escapees didn't get on the 'wrong' ship. I just never knew purple ships had males on them.
Finally the FEMALE Zentraedi tells Myria that her ship is ready. She is speaking in a man's voice. I am sure this was just an accident on behalf of the American voice over team.
I always liked the way the female power armor zipped and zoomed around.
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I've had fun so far, picking apart each episode in my year long look at Robotech and now let's continue with the next six episodes of the series. I will also be reading the next six comics and reading the next book (which covers about six episodes).
Episode #7 Bye By Mars
It's strange that Sera base would be totally deserted. Such a large base should have harbored some survivor. Oh well.
If you remember earlier in the year in some of the Academy comics Khyron and Breetai had some adventures together. In the show it seems that they don't really know each other. However, it could be construed that they did know each other.
After the Khyron scene there is a battle scene. This is one of those scenes I never really cared for. I'd just watch more Macross city fun and drama as opposed to ships duking it out. At one point Gloval orders the main gun to be moved and we see it rotate. How in the world that is possible is beyond me.
Rick hears some RDF propaganda and it upsets him. This is a VERY adult theme. I'm sure kids would just let this go in one ear and out another but I think it's very cool.
Once again I'll ask it, why in the heck was Carl Rieber in the military? Such a puss... and apparently a cradle robber.
The Zentraedi spy buried in the ground was WAYYYY ahead of his time. He was the first Emo!
The shot of the destroids coming down the ramp show the MACII at the right size this time. It's huge!
The scene where Lisa rides into Sera Base makes the place looks like Tomorrow Land Disneyworld.
Vanessa's video screen is ginormous!
Gloval calls the Veritech squadrons 'Valkyrie' squadrons.
Rick rescuing Lisa from Sera Base is the first step to their eventual hookup.
P.S. The bloopers from Protocultrue Addicts are a lot bigger this time since they were kind of hard to read last time. Enjoy!
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Episode #8 Sweet Sixteen
Ut oh, we are the 'B' team again.
I used to record little audio bits of the show onto audio tapes back in the 90's. I found interesting stuff and recorded it back to back and got to know those bits word for word. The ceremony scene that happens here at the beginning of the episode is one of those recorded sessions. I know this stuff by heart.
Khyron looks very 'Star Blazers' in his first scene of this episode.
Rick is almost 2 heads shorter than the others in the room!
The laptop or whatever it is that Roy opens to show Rick his new subordinates sure is crude. No normal image but a strange flashing black and white photo... it will probably give you a seizure!
The medal that Rick just put on his chest disappears before he leaves Roy's.
Wow! Max's uniforms changes color right in front of your eyes when they are standing on the street watching the destroyed destroid being hauled off.
Ben's enthusiasm is infections.
Why are the destroids all just walking targets?
I know I've already covered this but the 'B' team animation is really rough. The space scenes with the black backgrounds look really dirty, there is a lot of dust particles on the cells.
If Rick had some balls he would could have killed Khyron when his ship was immobilized by thr recall beam.
"Cola makes the good times roll. Have a peanut." WTF?
Minmei goes all gooey because the medal (which she doesn't even know what it is) just because it's shiny. SHEESH!
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Episode #9 Miss Macross
This is one of my favorite episodes of the series. All the elements are just so right here. It's fantastic!
The opening shot shows some of the Ghost fighters you saw in the very first episode. According to the RPG those are unmanned ships.
The very next shot is a view of Macross city's 'layers'. There is no apparent railing or anything... cars and people could just go right over the edge!
When Rick and Minmei are sitting, talking Rick sees a blue sky outside. Minmei tells him that the Robotech engineers did it. I wonder if that was the original dialogue. I am thinking that it was an English addition to the story and that in the original Japanese show Rick was just musing about being able to see a real sky, sort of a day dream. Can anyone tell me? I know that the books really grabbed ahold of that concept and dubbed it the EVE system.
The Zentraedi spies enter the picture and they whole storyline alters. They are the catalyst for the end of the war.
One of the Miss Macross contestants looks to be dressed up as Sybil Faltey.
The long shot of the fanliner looks really crude.
The whole Jan Morris subplot is great and I wish they showed a little more. The book elaborates on her more so I can get my fix.
Rick's uniform looses its blue for a moment when he is being paged at the Miss Macross contest.
The Super Battloid is awesome. It was always my favorite ship in the RPG. So many missiles!
The shot of the missiles coming towards Rick have the SDF-1 in the background. What the heck is going on there?! Looks like they got sloppy and used old animation.
PROTOCULTURE ADDICTS BITS:
Bloopers:
Episode #10 Blind Game
Rico, Konda, and Bron's positions keep changing during their altercation in front of Breetai.
The lower faceplatesRobotech force's helmets keep changing is size. Sometimes they are small, sometimes they are so big they are covering the pilot's mouths conveniently.
The bridge bunnies move so fast when the phone robot rolls up infront of Rick... it's hilarious. And as a note, Rick's choice in wardrobe is pretty horrendous.
Right after the 'commercial break' there is a shot of the whole SDF-1. It looks great! There's a lot of detail there. Infact all the shots of the ships looks really good in this episode.
I know it's just a show and all that jazz but why o why would Gloval make Lisa go on recon? Oh well, I guess you had to get her captured somehow.
Max says he has some pods coming up at 4 o'clock. He is looking somewhere at 10 o'clock... just sayin'.
When Breetai takes off running down the hall is great. You really want to root for him, he takes such decisive action! This whole battle scene make Breetai a much more interesting character.
Breetai's uniform changes color just like Rick's!
PROTOCULTURE ADDICTS BITS:
Bloopers:
Episode #11 First Contact
It's WWF Robotech style.
Max's veritech changes color right before he is sucked out of the ship.
Rick is such a chauvinistic pig! 'Some assignments are just too difficult for women." lol. Well, he was really young.
Ben makes a very dirty remark when Lisa is showing off her 'mico video recorder'. 'Micro' my foot. Not by today's standards.
Max hides in the toilet! I just now figured that out!
When Max changes his battloid into a disguise the walking noise changes from a loud clanking to a soft shoe sound.
When Minmei is singing for the first time we see Roy and Claudia together for the first time ever.
PROTOCULTURE ADDICTS BITS:
Bloopers:
Episode #12 The Big Escape
Lisa says "OK, I heard that" when Max tells them they need to put the guard into the cell. Her inflection was all wrong. The line didn't seems to be for that particular moment. I guess that's the danger of doing voice acting work.
When Max blasts through Breetai's view screen to escape I always thought that was so awesome. It was very 'movie-esque'.
When the veritech blows up and kills the Zentraedi he screams and it sounds so bad. I'm sure little Johnny had nightmares that night.
Rick makes another chauvinistic comment here about women not making any sense.
After their fall in the Zentraedi ship Lisa's har is down out of those awful rolls. This is when I fell in love with Lisa... that lovely hair, fair skin, and shapely thighs... sigh......
How absolutely fortunate that the escapees just happen to get on Azonia's ship which just happens to be going to the sol system where the SDF-1 is.
Wait wait wait! There is a lot of confusing stuff going on here. It looked like Rick, Lisa, Ben, and Max got aboard a purple ship (female ship). Why are battlepods onboard the female Zentraedi ship? Battlepods are male ships, right?
Then we see the spies on board an obvious male ship (no biggie here I just didn't think male and female Zentraedi would fight together). The ship is purple too so I guess the escapees didn't get on the 'wrong' ship. I just never knew purple ships had males on them.
Finally the FEMALE Zentraedi tells Myria that her ship is ready. She is speaking in a man's voice. I am sure this was just an accident on behalf of the American voice over team.
I always liked the way the female power armor zipped and zoomed around.
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Thursday, March 1, 2012
Macross Isand Junkie
by Nathan Stout (of AccordingToWhim.com)
As you all know I am fan of Robotech. I have enjoyed it for many a year and it has (for me) become far beyond a cartoon with dubious animation at times. I remember it around the first time back in the 80's but I wasn't that into it at the time. I am guessing I was more into G.I. Joe and He-Man than Robotech. It really wasn't until I was a freshman in High school that I got into Robotech. I think what initially happened was that my best friend in High school (Eric) got ahold of the RPG book and I think we launched from there.
Over the next several years it was a search for anything I could lay my hands on. Robotech's hey-day had passed and there was little new product coming out. I scoped out my local comic book shops (Heroes Workshop off West Berry and Lone Star Comics near Hulen) but didn't find too much in thoes early days. I remember that Heroes Workshop had a big cardboard SDF-1 and I was always amazed by it. I did find some issues of the Canadian Robotech Fanzine Protoculture Addicts and ate them up.
I got all the RPG books I could afford and the novelizations as well. When money permitted I would go wild at one of Lone Star's sales and stock up on back issues of the comics. Most were good but there were some strange ones too. Me and Eric and some of his friends would play the RPG. This was great fun but for some reason I was almost always the GM. Once I found 2 Peter Pan - Robotech Cassette with book sets at Pic-N-Save (which is now Big Lots). I loved those pieces of shit! They were so patched together and the narrator would constantly get the names wrong and when he read it was like he was reading the story for the first time (he would get inflections all wrong). None of it matter because it was Robotech and I enjoyed them thoroughly.
Through those first few years I got ahold of the F.H.E. version of Robotech. It had six VHS tapes with six episodes mercilessly editing together. They would only show one opening and closing credits and slap six episodes all together (cutting out quite a bit as I later found out). F.H.E. also released a couple of other versions of the series (with fewer episodes on each tape) but it appears my set was the last VHS set they produced. I would take a tape deck and record audio snippets off the show and make a 'mix tape' of audio sound bites. Years later I got the F.H.E. laser disc versions of the series and it was a totally different experience. The episodes were complete and there were scenes that I had never seen before. I gripe about those crappy VHS versions but they did offer some fun years later with the missing scenes I got to see off the laser discs.
Let's take a break with this cute chick giving us one of Minmei's songs...
Through all this I got on this kick to get Robotech Perfect Collection CD (or record it didn't matter to me). I contacted the company only to find out that it was out of print. These were the days before eBay so I was SOL. One day I was browsing something (online or in a magazine, I can't remember) and I ran across something that showed that a new soundtrack called Robotech: Perfect Soundtrack was about to be released... in less and a week! I was so excited. I got my order in ASAP but the production was delayed until early 97 and once I did get it I see why it was delayed. It had 2 discs and they were marked wrong. Disc 1 was Disc 2, etc... It still didn't detract from my utter delight. I got to enjoy songs I had never heard before including the ones I simply didn't remember from the Robotech The Movie soundtrack. As it turns out it wasn't 'perfect' there was another set that came less than 10 years later with even more.
In 1999 I built a website called Robocon.org. I already had a page about Robotech on my webpage so I moved it to the new Robocon.org and added more stuff to it. Robocon was the 10th anniversary of Robotech convention that took place in 1995. It focused on my take on Robotech as well as the voice actors that had attended the convention and so on. I had a couple of phone conversations with Tom Bateman (the organizer and protoge' of Carl Macek. He got me some info and gave me blessings to use it all on the site. He had been planning a Robocon 15 in 2000 but it fell through. In 200? He contacted me again (along with Tommy Yune I believe) about giving Robocon.org to Robotech.com (the official portal for Robotech). So they could use it for the upcoming Robocon 20. I agreed and they suped up my site and integrated it into their own. I still have my site archived here. You can compare the changes they made to it here (their official version). I found it funny that they kept the front page (the one with animation that says: 'Welcome to the Future of the Human Race' from my old site. I basically took that from my existing Front Mission fan site cause it sounded cool (I just changed 'Future of Warfare' to Future of the Human Race'). I also find it cool that the site is still up and intact after all these years.
Robotech has been good to me over the years and I feel I have been good to it. It's a nice relationship, eh?
As you all know I am fan of Robotech. I have enjoyed it for many a year and it has (for me) become far beyond a cartoon with dubious animation at times. I remember it around the first time back in the 80's but I wasn't that into it at the time. I am guessing I was more into G.I. Joe and He-Man than Robotech. It really wasn't until I was a freshman in High school that I got into Robotech. I think what initially happened was that my best friend in High school (Eric) got ahold of the RPG book and I think we launched from there.
Over the next several years it was a search for anything I could lay my hands on. Robotech's hey-day had passed and there was little new product coming out. I scoped out my local comic book shops (Heroes Workshop off West Berry and Lone Star Comics near Hulen) but didn't find too much in thoes early days. I remember that Heroes Workshop had a big cardboard SDF-1 and I was always amazed by it. I did find some issues of the Canadian Robotech Fanzine Protoculture Addicts and ate them up.
I got all the RPG books I could afford and the novelizations as well. When money permitted I would go wild at one of Lone Star's sales and stock up on back issues of the comics. Most were good but there were some strange ones too. Me and Eric and some of his friends would play the RPG. This was great fun but for some reason I was almost always the GM. Once I found 2 Peter Pan - Robotech Cassette with book sets at Pic-N-Save (which is now Big Lots). I loved those pieces of shit! They were so patched together and the narrator would constantly get the names wrong and when he read it was like he was reading the story for the first time (he would get inflections all wrong). None of it matter because it was Robotech and I enjoyed them thoroughly.
Through those first few years I got ahold of the F.H.E. version of Robotech. It had six VHS tapes with six episodes mercilessly editing together. They would only show one opening and closing credits and slap six episodes all together (cutting out quite a bit as I later found out). F.H.E. also released a couple of other versions of the series (with fewer episodes on each tape) but it appears my set was the last VHS set they produced. I would take a tape deck and record audio snippets off the show and make a 'mix tape' of audio sound bites. Years later I got the F.H.E. laser disc versions of the series and it was a totally different experience. The episodes were complete and there were scenes that I had never seen before. I gripe about those crappy VHS versions but they did offer some fun years later with the missing scenes I got to see off the laser discs.
Let's take a break with this cute chick giving us one of Minmei's songs...
Through all this I got on this kick to get Robotech Perfect Collection CD (or record it didn't matter to me). I contacted the company only to find out that it was out of print. These were the days before eBay so I was SOL. One day I was browsing something (online or in a magazine, I can't remember) and I ran across something that showed that a new soundtrack called Robotech: Perfect Soundtrack was about to be released... in less and a week! I was so excited. I got my order in ASAP but the production was delayed until early 97 and once I did get it I see why it was delayed. It had 2 discs and they were marked wrong. Disc 1 was Disc 2, etc... It still didn't detract from my utter delight. I got to enjoy songs I had never heard before including the ones I simply didn't remember from the Robotech The Movie soundtrack. As it turns out it wasn't 'perfect' there was another set that came less than 10 years later with even more.
In 1999 I built a website called Robocon.org. I already had a page about Robotech on my webpage so I moved it to the new Robocon.org and added more stuff to it. Robocon was the 10th anniversary of Robotech convention that took place in 1995. It focused on my take on Robotech as well as the voice actors that had attended the convention and so on. I had a couple of phone conversations with Tom Bateman (the organizer and protoge' of Carl Macek. He got me some info and gave me blessings to use it all on the site. He had been planning a Robocon 15 in 2000 but it fell through. In 200? He contacted me again (along with Tommy Yune I believe) about giving Robocon.org to Robotech.com (the official portal for Robotech). So they could use it for the upcoming Robocon 20. I agreed and they suped up my site and integrated it into their own. I still have my site archived here. You can compare the changes they made to it here (their official version). I found it funny that they kept the front page (the one with animation that says: 'Welcome to the Future of the Human Race' from my old site. I basically took that from my existing Front Mission fan site cause it sounded cool (I just changed 'Future of Warfare' to Future of the Human Race'). I also find it cool that the site is still up and intact after all these years.
Robotech has been good to me over the years and I feel I have been good to it. It's a nice relationship, eh?
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